one of the things you notice when you look, for example, at chris christie and ken cuccinelli is that friction, the difference between the tea party versus the establishment. and i want to play for you what conservative leader ralph reed says he thinks the republican party needs to do moving forward. >> you've got to say what you're for and not just what you're against. >> amen. >> it's not enough to be against obama care, what's your plan. secondly, you have to win some candidates who are effective messengers who can win people who even don't always agree with you on every issue. >> so how does the republican party move forward from here? what will you be looking for? what will poll numbers tell us? >> what i like is the republican establishment and republican elites kind of looking at the republican party and saying what ought to happen. but the fact is the voters -- the primary voters, the base voters of the republican party are the drivers of this. and they're the ones who give us these candidates that are elected in general elections. chris christie probably can't be nominated in